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Phyllis Staff
June 15th, 2008 @8:43 pm  

Dr. Mani, you’re right. This is an important paper! What really resonated with me was not the lists, nor the manipulative words — most of that I had already figured out by falling into too many of the “guru” traps. What did it was the “Morlocks of Internet Marketing.” Wow! The comparison could not have been more appropos.
What was left out? Not much, except perhaps, the time lost from reading and viewing all that “stuff.” That’s time that could have been spent in (dare I say it) Work!

Brad Pollina
June 16th, 2008 @1:39 am  

Today is Father’s day 2008. I received the email and immediately paid the $4.95, downloaded, and started reading the ebook. Boy, what a read! I was TOTALLY blown away! I’ve never, ever read anything like it before!

For the past 2+ years, I have been steadilly opening my wallet and buying the next biggest ebook, system, program, or whatever in search of the magic bullet to make me not just a little money, but enough to retire on the beach in 30 days or less!

Of course they never work; all they do is make the “gurus” more money!

In this book, you’ll learn about the cycles they go through and how they always have to keep producing more material to keep up their lifestyle.

Here is a wonerful excerpt from page 25:
“Always remember….

* Emotion is never a substitute for reason.
* Opinion is never a substitute for fact.
* Rationalisation is never a substitute for objectivity
* Emotional manipulation/blackmail is never a substitute for persuasion
* Logic and cunning are never substitutes for intelligence
* Wanting something to be true will never make it the truth.”

Is this AWESOME or what?!!

Buy the book! You won’t be sorry!

Brad Pollina
http://BradPollina.com

Kat Milner
June 16th, 2008 @3:54 pm  

Well, Dr. Mani,

I bought John Counsel’s ebook, & I read it.

I confess, I was fascinated from the git-go, because he presented me with an OTO page while simultaneously telling me that he doesn’t approve of them. An intriguing bit of mental misdirection:

“We don’t like One-Time Offers (OTOs) much because they typically prey on your fear of loss. It’s a form of manipulative selling that goes against the principles of Fourth Generation™ Thinking, which guides everything we do in our business. We don’t believe in ambushing our valued clients just because they’ve already made a purchase from us.

“But we’re happy to reward you if you’re decisive and know what you want, so we offer OTOs like this one with most of our Viral Explosion system products. Those rewards are usually a one-time only special price. But One-Time Offers are never the ONLY way to get your hands on that product. They’re available to you at any time — just not at that special price.”
Fear of loss, maybe?

If he meant what he said, the offer would be available AT ANY TIME as a “reward” for purchasing the first product.

Even so, he says repeatedly (for example, on pages 6 & 20): “. . . fear of loss is never the right reason for doing anything!”

I also have trouble with his cavalier use of language:

“Emotional manipulation is never a substitute for persuasion.” (p.25)
Persuasion means “communication intended to induce belief or action.” So what’s the difference?

“Logic . . . [is] never a substitute for intelligence.” (p.25)
Logic: Reasoned and reasonable judgment.
Intelligence: The ability to comprehend; to understand and profit from experience.
Sorry . . . did I miss the essential distinction there?

“troglodyte: Prehistoric, underground-dwelling cannibals who preyed on surface-dwellers.” (p. 28)
He simply made that up; the definition of troglodyte is “cave dweller.”

I have a problem with trust here. I suspect there’s much to learn, as well.

But I do agree with the essential message: think before you buy; think, think, & think. Be wary of those that target the fearful, ignorant, greedy, lazy, & stupid. (By extension, of course, don’t BE fearful, ignorant, greedy, lazy, or stupid.)

I’m trying very hard to be none of those!

Most sincerely,

~ Kat

PS: My favorite bit: “BS = Bogus Science, Beguiling Sophistry, Blarney Stoning, Blind Stupidity, Blatant Salesmanship or plain, old-fashioned Bovine Sediment. But it’s still all just B.S. once you strip away the fancy packaging and deceptive names.”

Rog
June 16th, 2008 @7:25 pm  

Dr. Mani,

Thank you for recommending this book to us. And yes, I agree with John that you are one of the few marketers that act in an ethical and honorable way.

As far as the information in the book, I believe John could’ve stopped when he said “Emotion is never a substitute for Reason” and Opinion is never a substitute for Fact.”

Those two items are probably the most important part of Johns message. Most people these days (at least in the U.S.) confuse their emotions for good, sound, logical reasoning.

A quick read of almost any newspaper, along with a little investigation, will show that there is a tremendous amount of Opinion that is being passed, and accepted as Fact…just because enough loud voices say it is. One can see this happening all day long in the Marketing arena (and politics)…internet or otherwise.

A couple of years ago I had begun weeding out several “marketing newsletters” from my inbox, but after reading “What the Gurus Won’t Tell You” I immediately went to my inbox and unsubscribed from several others.

Thank you again for your honesty and high integrity in your marketing and in your business Dr. Mani.

Rog

Jill
June 17th, 2008 @10:49 pm  

Dr Mani,

After receiving your email recommending this ebook, I purchased right away. I didn’t have to think it over because I know you have high integrity and I can trust you. So, thanks as it was very enlightening.

“What the Gurus won’t tell you” was very different and eye opening compared to most ebooks I’ve read. My biggest take away is that I realize I tend to have a consumer mind-set and have been easy prey to many Gurus in the past. I’m trying to improve upon this by not getting sucked into the sales tactics they use.

I realize that I don’t need to be like them in order to succeed. I will be giving this ebook an other read in a couple of days to reinforce John’s insights.

Thank you Dr Mani for helping me succeed.

Jill

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