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Joel Bomane
April 7th, 2008 @10:21 am  

We value as a specy our “territory”…
maybe as a remnant of our “survival instinct”
in time past…

Groups were and are still important for protection and growth.

As love cannot be automated on a “mass scale”…
so relationships “online” cannot be automated via Digital Tools…

You have to work at it one at a time, making small
deposits now and then…It’s all about long term
commitment and priorities (choice)…

Some wished they could “automate”…in order
to influence the masses (just have a look on how much
is spent to get “our attention” through all types of medias)…and give them some “quick fix” in exchange for “cash”…

We also value our “mental territory”…and we have a healthy tendency to want to expand our influence both online and offline…

Our dilemma is that Time is scarce…and it is our responsability to make priorities in our “online social life”
like we do in our everyday “offline social life”…

Also let us keep in mind that having many people agree with our ideas on Twitter, Facebook, or Myspace…
doesn’t mean that our ideas are TRUE:-)

Most often than not…in a “formated society” Truth
happens to be expanding right before our eyes
as we continue to grow daily…

Cordialement

Tempus Fugit

Fiat Lux

Joel Bomane from Sunny Sudden France

Peter Buick
April 7th, 2008 @1:38 pm  

http://www.guydz.com/moneypowerwisdom/building-relationships-using-digital-tools/

Hello Dr Mani,
I think there is a basic problem.
And you’ve inadvertently highlighted exactly what it is.

I confess I would be totally lost without my Internet connection. I’d get up in the morning and would not know what to do. Literally.

But that is not because I have “digital relationships”, or because digital technology is my false idol. Or because I am living a virtual life in a digital world. (OK well maybe sometimes.)

All of our Internet tools are just communication channels, whether real-time, on-demand, archived, generated in response to rules, or auto responded (sic).

Because the Internet is large and instant, people seem to feel a need to “own” their part of cyberspace. But even though there are billions of surfers, there aren’t enough surfing man hours to read all the lists of every Netizen.
Plus for many, just having a digital identity, even a static one, is enough.

I think this topic asks, are we maximising our digital tools to leverage our digital relationships. Well that is my issue.

As a tool, it is just like speech, or pen and ink. It is a channel to communicate. To communicate emotion and experience. To reach out and connect with people. But the tool itself is worthless. Regardless of the myriad of formats and coming formats. It doesn’t need maximising.

As for digital relationships, I do not believe in them.
How can I say that?

Firstly for many, like myself, digital life divides in to 3 main areas. Personal, family and (close) friends, and business.

For business, the relationship is largely impersonal. Sales of media represented in money and fame represented in hits. It’s actually more personal (or at least monitorable) than it is by selling product through international distributors, to wholesalers, to retailers to the end user.
But monitoring isn’t a relationship. It provides feedback and marketing metrics, but it isn’t a relationship.
So part of the art of an artist, is to transform such passive events in to an interaction. Artists who are better at that, become more famous and trendy.
Please read my forth coming book on that.

Family and friend relationships, use far more personal and direct tools, like chat, email and voip. All largely 1:1. I’m sure the future will bring video chat as an absolute norm, and i should probably gloss over the smell and feel devices which already exist which can be triggered remotely, or should that be expressed from a distance?
Those family and friend relationships I’m not sure can or need to be improved by technology. It’s more a question of time, which furonically comes form using technology for the other, in theory, time saving chores (lie counting hits, adding up sales and monitoring customer feedback trends).

So what is the remaining “personal” mode about then?

That is a much harder question and maybe what you were probing for ;-)

If we think of “personal” mode as the ethos, kharma, values, identity of the person, then ones digital identity (your eSignature) is very important to you spiritually.

Simplistically I’d propose it is what people think of you beyond the blog, beyond the invoice, beyond the download, or hit.
Who’d have thought we could say spiritually and internet in the same sentence?

I think this personal digital identity is the area with the most room to evolve.
That is the one where the tools are yet to exist and partly what web3point8 hopes to start to address.

The Internet and very tool it pocesses, is a channel for all walks of life. Murders, rapists, saints, mothers and still innocent children. We can’t shoot the messenger for enabling that.

But many tools in the Internet propel troll’ism and flame wars and even bullying. But it is just a representation of life.

So what I hope for the future is where people will evovle digital identities that are what they would like their kharma to be. And not just to yell or kick or scream like an ignored child, just to get attention.

I’d like a better way to represent my own kharma, which I need to improve in reality too.

Of course we all crave attention, as you said in the opening. But I don’t think that hits or dollars are the attention we need. For attention to be of value, it must be identifiable. Detectable specifically and personally when it is gone.
Hits and needle in a haystack blog comments, and endless personal blogs, do not make that a reality.

Which is why I said at the start, I do not believe in digital relationships and I do not think we need to leverage the current tools to try and forge a persona out of pings and trackbacks - LOL.

In my version of the Internet, we go one step closer to the utopia of every voice counting, and moderately equally.

That is my dream for web3point8. I hope nobody wakes me up ;-)

Peace and Light.
Peter

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